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MS Help

Post by PepsiHog » Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:20 pm

I really, really, really HATE not having help(F1) in MS. I don't always have internet. So When I have a problem, I just have to stop programming until I do or I have to do some other programming.

Is there a way to add help to my current version(15.0.24)?

Is this in the help section?

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Re: MS Help

Post by Dorian (MJT support) » Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:00 pm

F1 still launches context sensitive help, but we moved to online help quite some time ago.
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Re: MS Help

Post by Grovkillen » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:11 am

Couldn't a fallback to a local CHM file be an option?
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Re: MS Help

Post by Marcus Tettmar » Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:34 am

No, CHM was deprecated years ago. WinHelp is also no longer provided by Microsoft. While it _may_ be possible to make it work with sufficient old unsupported libraries it means a lot of extra bulk and that's before the size of the help itself - Macro Scheduler's help is large. But we also have to maintain it. Producing a standalone help system means any changes require a build and deploy of each piece of software. Whereas the modern online help system can be updated at any time. I don't know of any other development environment or language that includes an offline help system or manual. And I can see why. Sorry but it just isn't worth our while spending time and money on finding, building and maintaining the software with an in-built help system.

Best we could do is offer a PDF version, but, while that will allow you to view the documentation, it won't give you context sensitive help. Give us a few days and we will see if we can generate a PDF document for you to download. It may not look beautiful, but will see what we can do.
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Re: MS Help

Post by Grovkillen » Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:01 am

I think you can jump to bookmarks using switches: https://pdfobject.com/pdf/pdf_open_parameters_acro8.pdf

That way it would be context aware.
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Re: MS Help

Post by Marcus Tettmar » Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:50 am

I'm sure you can. It's not going to happen though. There's no way we can maintain a context aware PDF file and build that into the software. If 75% of our customer base had no internet we might consider it!
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Re: MS Help

Post by Grovkillen » Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:53 am

I'm not trying to be a smart a**, just trying to help. I feel like I'm the most annoying customer/user you have come by. Sorry about that!
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Re: MS Help

Post by JRL » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:28 pm

Grovkillen wrote:I feel like I'm the most annoying customer/user you have come by...
Wait!!! I thought I was the most annoying customer / user / forumite / name your poison...

@ Pepsihog
There used to be and likely still are freeware programs out there for downloading entire websites. I don't plan to do this myself, but I can envision a plan where one might use one of those on a regular basis while connected to the internet to download the Macro Scheduler help site. Then write a Macro Scheduler script that intercepts the F1 key and references the local version of help.

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